El Camino Del Diablo:

I have this trail on my list for spring. Thus far I have me and two other Jeeps going. I heard its not much use of 4x, but its supposed to be a scenic and historical route.

I will keep you posted on the dates when they become more firm.

-Ryan 

azhayseed:

Ryan count me in on this trip!

I'm interested as well - Maybe make it a 2-3 day run?

Hopefully my back is better by springtime.

JD

ryangibson:

You got it! 

I got it alright - 120 miles of washboard Toroweap trail, about 40 miles of Point Sublime dirt, 3 days of sitting and bouncing in my Rubicon with a bad back that I threw out the day before we left for the North Rim. Half a bottle of pain killers, 3 trips to my Chiropractor - God what a great time I had with my son, AzTacoma, and you. When is the next trip, PAIN or NO PAIN, I hope I'm there.

JD

Hey I have some time off in March. The days are 8-11 and 18-22. Don't feel like you gotta go on those days, I'm just throwing it out there. No biggie.

I heard that they are a little more stringent on permits nowadays and they only let parties of 4 or less vehicles or 8 or less people or some crap like that. Something to look into... I could have heard wrong.

Thanks for the tentative schedule dates - as I've stated before I'm definitely interested in doing this run. But due to the location of the trail and the issues along the border I have some concerns about this trip. I definitely like the idea of having a fairly large group of vehicles and people along on this type of run. Due to the fact that this run is approx. 150 miles how many days are you thinking on for completing this trek? And I have a small trailer that I could pull to bring along supplies. Do you think a smal trailer would function OK on this trail? If not I'm sure I could load up the Rubi like I did for our trip to the North Rim. Let me know some feed back.

JD

Ruby Can:

Thanks for the tentative schedule dates - as I've stated before I'm definitely interested in doing this run. But due to the location of the trail and the issues along the border I have some concerns about this trip. I definitely like the idea of having a fairly large group of vehicles and people along on this type of run. Due to the fact that this run is approx. 150 miles how many days are you thinking on for completing this trek? And I have a small trailer that I could pull to bring along supplies. Do you think a smal trailer would function OK on this trail? If not I'm sure I could load up the Rubi like I did for our trip to the North Rim. Let me know some feed back.

JD

A decent size group is cool, but as I mentioned, I believe there's limits on the size the gov't will allow. I'll be the first to drop out if the group gets too large... I have a week long Army thing in March and with a new baby in Feb and stuff it won't kill me to sit it out. 

I think it could be done in 2 nights easy. The AzStrip was a 3 nighter and that was a lot farther. Assuming 4 hours to get there, you could camp in the Goldwater Range the 1st night and the wildlife refuge the 2nd. Pop out at Ajo and a 2.5 hour drive home. The trail itself shouldn't be bad at all, but towing a trailer might limit your possibilities a bit. I doubt it's necessary, but it's purely up to you and what you plan on bringing along.

I don't want to get ahead of myself because Ryan had said he was already planning a Spring trip... so he might have other ideas on the times and logistics. 

I didn't think you were allowed to camp on the Goldwater Range due to the fact that it was an active area. My luck my Rubi would get bombed or shot up by an A-10 Warthog thinking it was a practice target. It sounds like your plans are to start out in Yuma and end up in Ajo. Make the long drive first and the short drive on the last day. Really don't want to see you drop out as we possibly can make the run in 2 groups if we have quite a few parties interested in going. We'll just have to see what comes up here in the near future as to what the limits are and how many are interested.

Congrats on the upcoming baby!

And thanks for the pics from the N Rim outing.

 JD

candi_medic1:

Count me out on this one.

boc, boc, boc .................

I will call to get the details about the permit. I think 3 or more vehicles would be perfect if we all come perpared. I am not sure about dates and times, any recommendations would be good.

Since we are in the military res, I will also see about firearm limitations as I know we all like to pack heavy.

ryangibson:

I will call to get the details about the permit. I think 3 or more vehicles would be perfect if we all come perpared. I am not sure about dates and times, any recommendations would be good.

Since we are in the military res, I will also see about firearm limitations as I know we all like to pack heavy.

It looks like you can do one stop shopping and get all the necessary permits together. I have not come across any sort of firearms limitations, and from what I've read, you can camp within the Goldwater range. I think the trip can be done in 1 night... but that means leaving real early and getting back late with longs days in-between. I'd much rather take 2 nights and have time to dilly-dally along the way, personally.